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	<title>Comments on: Meet Django &#8211; A Pythonic Rails Killer</title>
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		<title>By: Jules</title>
		<link>http://www.jrandolph.com/blog/2005/07/15/meet-django-a-pythonic-rails-killer/comment-page-1/#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>Jules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone have real arguments for django?? You&#039;re kicking rails, it&#039;s stupid to give arguments against rails if you don&#039;t have any arguments for django.

I do have some arguments:

- Ruby is much cleaner than python (self as first argument, in ruby you use iterators/blocks/continuations a lot, in python you have a separate language construct for every problem)

- Rails doen&#039;t require so much code for models

But I am sure there are a lot of things that are better in django than in rails. It would be great if the good things in one project are implemented in the other, so both frameworks will improve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone have real arguments for django?? You&#8217;re kicking rails, it&#8217;s stupid to give arguments against rails if you don&#8217;t have any arguments for django.</p>
<p>I do have some arguments:</p>
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<p>Ruby is much cleaner than python (self as first argument, in ruby you use iterators/blocks/continuations a lot, in python you have a separate language construct for every problem)</p>
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<p>Rails doen&#8217;t require so much code for models</p>
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<p>But I am sure there are a lot of things that are better in django than in rails. It would be great if the good things in one project are implemented in the other, so both frameworks will improve.</p>
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		<title>By: magpiebrain</title>
		<link>http://www.jrandolph.com/blog/2005/07/15/meet-django-a-pythonic-rails-killer/comment-page-1/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>magpiebrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2005 07:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;A comparison of Django with Rails&lt;/strong&gt;

Where I compare Django and Rails, and probably piss off developers of both</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>A comparison of Django with Rails</strong></p>
<p>Where I compare Django and Rails, and probably piss off developers of both</p>
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		<title>By: George Moschovitis</title>
		<link>http://www.jrandolph.com/blog/2005/07/15/meet-django-a-pythonic-rails-killer/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>George Moschovitis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 12:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is another platform for Web development using Ruby. Nitro (and the associated ORM library Og) is gaining momentum. Have a look at http://www.nitrohq.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is another platform for Web development using Ruby. Nitro (and the associated ORM library Og) is gaining momentum. Have a look at <a href="http://www.nitrohq.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.nitrohq.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Huggins</title>
		<link>http://www.jrandolph.com/blog/2005/07/15/meet-django-a-pythonic-rails-killer/comment-page-1/#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Huggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rdk: No video/pictures... But I was sitting there thinking there should have been... However, the tutorials already posted at djangoproject.com are a longer version of the demo... and I hear a screencast is coming soon.

Vens wrote:
&quot;The real question is… Do the django guys have the guts to pick @ Smalltalk and Lisp solutions?&quot; 

I&#039;m not going there. :-) However, would anyone like to help me write &quot;COBOL on Rails&quot; or &quot;FORTRAN on Rails&quot; in time for an April 1st release next year?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rdk: No video/pictures&#8230; But I was sitting there thinking there should have been&#8230; However, the tutorials already posted at djangoproject.com are a longer version of the demo&#8230; and I hear a screencast is coming soon.</p>
<p>Vens wrote:<br />
&#8220;The real question is… Do the django guys have the guts to pick @ Smalltalk and Lisp solutions?&#8221; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going there. :-) However, would anyone like to help me write &#8220;COBOL on Rails&#8221; or &#8220;FORTRAN on Rails&#8221; in time for an April 1st release next year?</p>
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		<title>By: rdk</title>
		<link>http://www.jrandolph.com/blog/2005/07/15/meet-django-a-pythonic-rails-killer/comment-page-1/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>rdk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>any video/pictures from the chipy meeting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>any video/pictures from the chipy meeting?</p>
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		<title>By: Vens</title>
		<link>http://www.jrandolph.com/blog/2005/07/15/meet-django-a-pythonic-rails-killer/comment-page-1/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Vens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real question is... Do the django guys have the guts to pick @ Smalltalk and Lisp solutions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real question is&#8230; Do the django guys have the guts to pick @ Smalltalk and Lisp solutions?</p>
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		<title>By: neuruss</title>
		<link>http://www.jrandolph.com/blog/2005/07/15/meet-django-a-pythonic-rails-killer/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>neuruss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I hope rails learns to play with Django and they&#039;ll not smite each other...&quot;

Hmm... I&#039;d rather like to see Django crushing their enemies. No mercy, no hesitation. Annihilation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I hope rails learns to play with Django and they&#8217;ll not smite each other&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmm&#8230; I&#8217;d rather like to see Django crushing their enemies. No mercy, no hesitation. Annihilation!</p>
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		<title>By: mikeshi</title>
		<link>http://www.jrandolph.com/blog/2005/07/15/meet-django-a-pythonic-rails-killer/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>mikeshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2005 14:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, limodou wrote it in Chinese, not greek!!! I ,however, don&#039;t know why he replied in Chinese, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, limodou wrote it in Chinese, not greek!!! I ,however, don&#8217;t know why he replied in Chinese, too.</p>
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		<title>By: choonkeat</title>
		<link>http://www.jrandolph.com/blog/2005/07/15/meet-django-a-pythonic-rails-killer/comment-page-1/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>choonkeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2005 00:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I hope Rails learns to play with Django and they&#039;ll not smite each other (if not friends, don&#039;t be enemies). The world is big enough. A combined message from different camps will be more resounding than any one camp trying to say he is the bestest - and coming off as naive or clueless.&quot;
http://blog.yanime.org/articles/2005/07/16/ruby-has-rails-python-now-has-django</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I hope Rails learns to play with Django and they&#8217;ll not smite each other (if not friends, don&#8217;t be enemies). The world is big enough. A combined message from different camps will be more resounding than any one camp trying to say he is the bestest &#8211; and coming off as naive or clueless.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://blog.yanime.org/articles/2005/07/16/ruby-has-rails-python-now-has-django" rel="nofollow">http://blog.yanime.org/articles/2005/07/16/ruby-has-rails-python-now-has-django</a></p>
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		<title>By: alang yin</title>
		<link>http://www.jrandolph.com/blog/2005/07/15/meet-django-a-pythonic-rails-killer/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>alang yin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 23:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to:Jason Huggins

Limodou said his words just in chinese.

In china,many people are interested in django.

so great.haha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to:Jason Huggins</p>
<p>Limodou said his words just in chinese.</p>
<p>In china,many people are interested in django.</p>
<p>so great.haha.</p>
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